Plato’s Laws
Athenian Stranger. Tell me, Strangers, is a God or some man supposed to be the author of your laws?
Athenian Stranger. Tell me, Strangers, is a God or some man supposed to be the author of your laws?
We may now say that our discourse about the nature of the universe has an end. The world has received animals, mortal and immortal, and is fulfilled with them, and has become a visible animal containing the visible--the sensible God who is the image of the intellectual, the greatest, best, fairest, most perfect--the one only begotten heaven.
My dear Socrates, that, then, is the nature of the Spirit called Love.
The next step, apparently, is for us to try to discover, and point out, what the failings are in cities nowadays, which stop them being run in this way, and what is the minimum change which could help a city arrive at political arrangements of this kind. Ideally a single change. Failing that, two. And failing that, as few as possible in number and as small as possible in impact. 472b p.175
This way, he said. We surely agree that is anyone recollects anything, he must have known it before?
Can you tell me, Socrates, can virtue be taught? Or is not teachable but the result of practice, or is it neither of these, but men possess it by nature or in some other way?
Polus: Very well, I shall. Tell me, Socrates, since you think Gorgias is confused about oratory, what do you say it is? Socrates: Are you asking me what craft I say it is? Polus: Yes, I am. Socrates: To tell you the truth, Polus, I dont think it's a craft at all.
Socrates: And that the good life, the beautiful life, and the just life are the same; does that still hold, or not? p.129
Euthyphro: I don't know him, Socrates. What charge does he bring against you? Socrates: What charge? A not ignoble one I think, for it is no small thing for a young man to have knowledge of such an important subject. He says he knows how our young men are corrupted and who corrupts them.
Now, the hour to part has come. I go to die, you go to live. Which of use goes to the better lot is known to no one, except the god.